Brand New Timberline 850 issues - need some feedback thank you

[magoo40]

I asked him about the seasoning my grill and he told me to just follow the book.. so that's what I intend to do... who knows what will happen with this new one.. let's hope it comes through... C'mon Traeger TL850 you can do it!!

I have worked with high temp finishes a lot, and despite what the paint manufactures say i alwasy do a gradual "Paint Cure" 2-3 staged seasonings. 50% & 75% then 100% recommended temp cooling between each stage this allows the paint to cure with out burning or bubbling before exposure to high temps, considering all the grief you have been through if I were you I would adopt this approach. It can't hurt right and it might save you some disappointment.

 

[alphasig293]

Update....they messaged me back...

They will be replacing my grill. Also asked for the other one back. Wonder if I could keep it for parts?

 

[TraegerTL850]

So...they sent me my replacement lid and back. Swapped everything out...still off due to the side being bent/bowed in. The back panel does not address the bubbled paint. I have messaged them again asking for feedback.

This is utterly ridiculous - my TL850 blistered in the exact same place on the downdraft on the back right (looking from the rear side of the TL850) or backside of downdraft on the left hand side form the frontal view if the TL850 total BS

 

[RustyJake]

This is utterly ridiculous - my TL850 blistered in the exact same place on the downdraft on the back right (looking from the rear side of the TL850) or backside of downdraft on the left hand side form the frontal view if the TL850 total BS

That sucks. They need to admit they have a design flaw and fix the issue. Then they need to do what is right and replace all the grills affected without hassling the customers.
There are definitely heat stress points on this grill and the IW series in those places, front and rear of the grill.

 

[TraegerTL850]

I have worked with high temp finishes a lot, and despite what the paint manufactures say i alwasy do a gradual "Paint Cure" 2-3 staged seasonings. 50% & 75% then 100% recommended temp cooling between each stage this allows the paint to cure with out burning or bubbling before exposure to high temps, considering all the grief you have been through if I were you I would adopt this approach. It can't hurt right and it might save you some disappointment.

Magoo40 - I certainly appreciate the information I had thought about not seasoning it at extreme 500 degree temperature at all - so you mentioned 2 to 3 stages at 50 75 and 100 per cent at what temperatures and for how long a period of time can you elaborate a bit further.. I don't want to see paint blistering or bubbling popping peeling what have you… thanks a lot for the feedback - Shawn KS

 

[magoo40]

Trager instructions for SEASONING YOUR GRILL - INITIAL BURN IN

My suggestion are in red.

Before cooking the first batch of food in your new Traeger, you will need to season the grill. This simple, one-time initial firing process will ensure that you get the most out of your Traeger Wood Pellet Grill. We’re so excited that you’ve chosen to join Traeger Nation.
Step 1 Plug in grill to an electrical outlet and turn on
Step 2 -Prime your auger tube with pellets
Step 3 -Add hardwood pellets to hopper
Step 4 -Turn the main power switch on
Step 5 -Turn dial to "Select Auger" then choose "Prime Auger"
Step 6 -Once pellets begin to fall into firepot, select "Done" to turn off auger
Step 7Turn selection dial clockwise to 225°F (107°C) and press the dial
Step 8Press ignite, close the lid, and when the temperature reaches 225°F, run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 9 Turn selection dial clockwise to 340°F (170°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 10 Turn selection dial clockwise to 450°F (230°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.

This approach will help give the paint time to "cure" before exsopure to high temps , hope it helps.

 

[TraegerTL850]

Trager instructions for SEASONING YOUR GRILL - INITIAL BURN IN

My suggestion are in red.

Before cooking the first batch of food in your new Traeger, you will need to season the grill. This simple, one-time initial firing process will ensure that you get the most out of your Traeger Wood Pellet Grill. We’re so excited that you’ve chosen to join Traeger Nation.
Step 1 Plug in grill to an electrical outlet and turn on
Step 2 -Prime your auger tube with pellets
Step 3 -Add hardwood pellets to hopper
Step 4 -Turn the main power switch on
Step 5 -Turn dial to "Select Auger" then choose "Prime Auger"
Step 6 -Once pellets begin to fall into firepot, select "Done" to turn off auger
Step 7Turn selection dial clockwise to 225°F (107°C) and press the dial
Step 8Press ignite, close the lid, and when the temperature reaches 225°F, run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 9 Turn selection dial clockwise to 340°F (170°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 10 Turn selection dial clockwise to 450°F (230°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.

This approach will help give the paint time to "cure" before exposure to high temps , hope it helps.

magoo40 - Okie dokie I will follow this recommendation thank you for providing this and laying out this procedure for me to follow I am grateful and appreciate it very much friend - I will let you know how things go for me thanks again magoo40 - Shawn in KS near KC - Chiefs country

 

[alphasig293]

Hmmm...I think my replacement grill shows up this week based on the FEDEX and UPS emails I received. I ordered some stuff from Traeger. I'm not sure if I should season it how Traeger recommends or how @magoo40 suggests.

 

[RemE]

Hmmm...I think my replacement grill shows up this week based on the FEDEX and UPS emails I received. I ordered some stuff from Traeger. I'm not sure if I should season it how Traeger recommends or how @magoo40 suggests.

It can't hurt to take it slow on the burn in.

My 850 has no bubbles and I also seasoned it in a few sessions.

 

[TraegerTL850]

Good question RustyJake - where are Traeger products made? My best guess is China would that surprise anyone not on your life -

These are absolutely made in China here it is off the box of my new TL850

 

[TraegerTL850]

okay there is a known issue(s) with the IW's and the TL's paint issues are just a start. The problem is when you get a replacement grill/smoker how can we/you/me be confident that it won't have some of the same issues... what is it that will actually fix the issues we are all having... continually replacing the damned Traeger is not going to automatically fix any of the manufacturing flaws.. just my humble opinion

 

[RemE]

okay there is a known issue(s) with the IW's and the TL's paint issues are just a start. The problem is when you get a replacement grill/smoker how can we/you/me be confident that it won't have some of the same issues... what is it that will actually fix the issues we are all having... continually replacing the damned Traeger is not going to automatically fix any of the manufacturing flaws.. just my humble opinion

Frankly, I think that the paint issue is more about a quality control issue, like poor prep on the painting than a design flaw. Once you have a good one you are probably all set moving forward.

 

[TraegerTL850]

Frankly, I think that the paint issue is more about a quality control issue, like poor prep on the painting than a design flaw. Once you have a good one you are probably all set moving forward.

Well that would be great let's hope my new TL850 has a good powder coating on it -- I am going to use the "magoo40" (thanks a lot 'magoo40') recommended method for seasoning my new TL850 see below ---- thanks a lot RemE


Before cooking the first batch of food in your new Traeger, you will need to season the grill. This simple, one-time initial firing process will ensure that you get the most out of your Traeger Wood Pellet Grill. We’re so excited that you’ve chosen to join Traeger Nation.
Step 1 Plug in grill to an electrical outlet and turn on
Step 2 -Prime your auger tube with pellets
Step 3 -Add hardwood pellets to hopper
Step 4 -Turn the main power switch on
Step 5 -Turn dial to "Select Auger" then choose "Prime Auger"
Step 6 -Once pellets begin to fall into firepot, select "Done" to turn off auger
Step 7Turn selection dial clockwise to 225°F (107°C) and press the dial
Step 8Press ignite, close the lid, and when the temperature reaches 225°F, run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 9 Turn selection dial clockwise to 340°F (170°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 10 Turn selection dial clockwise to 450°F (230°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.

 

[TraegerTL850]

Well that would be great let's hope my new TL850 has a good powder coating on it -- I am going to use the "magoo40" (thanks a lot 'magoo40') recommended method for seasoning my new TL850 see below ---- thanks a lot RemE


Before cooking the first batch of food in your new Traeger, you will need to season the grill. This simple, one-time initial firing process will ensure that you get the most out of your Traeger Wood Pellet Grill. We’re so excited that you’ve chosen to join Traeger Nation.
Step 1 Plug in grill to an electrical outlet and turn on
Step 2 -Prime your auger tube with pellets
Step 3 -Add hardwood pellets to hopper
Step 4 -Turn the main power switch on
Step 5 -Turn dial to "Select Auger" then choose "Prime Auger"
Step 6 -Once pellets begin to fall into firepot, select "Done" to turn off auger
Step 7Turn selection dial clockwise to 225°F (107°C) and press the dial
Step 8Press ignite, close the lid, and when the temperature reaches 225°F, run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 9 Turn selection dial clockwise to 340°F (170°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.
Start Gill again
Step 10 Turn selection dial clockwise to 450°F (230°C) and press the dial run for 20 minutes then Shutdown grill and let cool.

Okay magoo40 -- I was finally was able to get my buddy over last evening and now have the 2nd brand new TL850 assembled and now have the 1st cycle burn in or seasoning completed. The temp you recommend af 225 degrees for 20 minutes I used the 1st cycle - I noticed the temperature wanted to climb higher than the 225 I had it set at - see photos - I am now letting this new 850 cool down and will advance to step 2 in your recommended initial seasoning using 340 degrees at 20 minutes thanks for the burn in steps you have provided me I appreciate it - I'm hopeful that the 2nd new TL850 actually functions as it should but I am not holding my breath

 

[TraegerTL850]

Okay magoo40 -- I was finally was able to get my buddy over last evening and now have the 2nd brand new TL850 assembled and now have the 1st cycle burn in or seasoning completed. The temp you recommend af 225 degrees for 20 minutes I used the 1st cycle - I noticed the temperature wanted to climb higher than the 225 I had it set at - see photos - I am now letting this new 850 cool down and will advance to step 2 in your recommended initial seasoning using 340 degrees at 20 minutes thanks for the burn in steps you have provided me I appreciate it - I'm hopeful that the 2nd new TL850 actually functions as it should but I am not holding my breath

 

[alphasig293]

burning mine in as well! I’m having issues getting this 850 #2 to connect via the app. So I have to babysit it until I can call Traeger and have them help me trouble shoot it.

Okay magoo40 -- I was finally was able to get my buddy over last evening and now have the 2nd brand new TL850 assembled and now have the 1st cycle burn in or seasoning completed. The temp you recommend af 225 degrees for 20 minutes I used the 1st cycle - I noticed the temperature wanted to climb higher than the 225 I had it set at - see photos - I am now letting this new 850 cool down and will advance to step 2 in your recommended initial seasoning using 340 degrees at 20 minutes thanks for the burn in steps you have provided me I appreciate it - I'm hopeful that the 2nd new TL850 actually functions as it should but I am not holding my breath

 

[dunawayfamily]

burning mine in as well! I’m having issues getting this 850 #2 to connect via the app. So I have to babysit it until I can call Traeger and have them help me trouble shoot it.

What Firmware version is running on WiFIRE Controller ... verifying that it has the necessary minimum version installed up front can save a lot of hassles in case it is running 2.00.00 or lower/older ...

 

[alphasig293]

running 2.00.01

 

[dunawayfamily]

running 2.00.01

That version of firmware should be connectable to your Home Wi-Fi, assuming the controller does not have corrupted firmware ... good luck in getting it connected - feel free to reach out if you run into anything that causes it not to work as expected ...

 

[alphasig293]

I'm doing the burn in now...going to power cycle it and reconnect

That version of firmware should be connectable to your Home Wi-Fi, assuming the controller does not have corrupted firmware ... good luck in getting it connected - feel free to reach out if you run into anything that causes it not to work as expected ...